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我看了《今日成立政府，明日燃油降价》的辩论会两次。。。
第一次在九点半，因为有幸看到merdekareview.com的即时新闻有附上一个网络电视的网址，虽然迟了半个小时但是也总算有幸看到双方的辩辞。
第二次在晚间十一点，TV3重播，一个小时的跟进。。。
Datuk Seri的辩辞就可以让我很轻易地明白而Datuk Shabery的辩辞就总觉得没有什么重点。。。就结案成词来说。。。安华就以point form来结尾，而Shabery的从头到尾却让我丈八金刚摸不着头脑。。。同样都讲马来话啊~！！！
自问我的马来语文程度不差。。。
还有节目来到了尾声，安华也很有风度的前进握手，而shabery就好像愣在一边迟了几秒才回神过来。。。hmmmm
请跟进 http://www.merdekareview.com/news.php?n=7204
请给意见到底是谁在这次的辩论会比较出色
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=HhJZYHV3eyRhMBDXcZWBfQ_3d_3d
This survey is conducted by Malaysiakini
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those who missed this, youtube has it(courtesy of gnocspider for pasting the link here, thank you)
Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkIRfaXLN6Y
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X01yx_Ywbe0
Part 3 - http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y8PT3xX3hN0
Part 4 - http://youtube.com/watch?v=xZVT_LxxZ3I
Part 5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9wBeQqjWbo
Part 6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xCk9hk7-Bc
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呵呵...同感....有人一直咬着人家的当部长的时候的历史不放...
可能是给上头逼出来~ 露面~
可能自己都不懂自己在讲什么~
haiz....
bingung.. tak tahu cakap apa pun..
老当益状嘛~~~
人家说输了要辞职
请给意见到底是谁在这次的辩论会比较出色
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=HhJZYHV3eyRhMBDXcZWBfQ_3d_3d
actually why him? he is not the right candidate to debate w annuar............. even annuar was not at his peak form............ i felt they were more likely doing "pantun" rather than debate! watched until i was sleepy............... boring......... could not stand it any more........... i drove out and enjoyed the brisk air outside........ better !
i felt that the most important thing about this debate is to convey some messages to the rakyat...
and seriously we as the rakyat are confident to say that our PM or DPM is not going to face Encik annuar due to many many reasons
i felt they were merely playing the "words" rather than showing us the accurate points................. "dari", "dalam"................ all nonsene................... somemore, talked too much about history............ what we want is NOW and FUTURE!!!!
haha...true :-)
what do you think the rakyat want to listen the most?
i dunno......... but definitely not watching two elephants doing WAYANG KULIT on the stage........... wasting our electricity which nowadays is at higher tariff due to increase in fuel charge!
hehehe...actions speak louder than words :P...
I guess I rather not listen but instead open up my eyes wide big big big :-)
havent watch it...
i feel debates between university students have more precise and accurate points compared to these two old birds................ hope they go back and retrospect on what they have been doing tonite on stage........ they are just like two zombees walking out from graveyards from thousands of years ago......... talking about things totally not related to today...........peeooowwwwwwww
hahaha... :-D
good point, speaking of zombies... you reminded me that I still got one match to watch between showbu and gostop :P
first time in my life....... i feel that i dont miss a thing about annuar's speech............ i think his brain is fully occupied by sodomy accusations..........can't work any more.............. i m more intersted on how he will handle the sodomy case........ rather than this debate! another intersting show to watch...................
let's see what will happen today later afternoon ;-)
有人一直拿着别人的sumbangan 来讲~
阿鱼还在！！！！
choi choi choi, 我当然还在=.=lll
i am the kengest...haha~
those who missed this, can watch in youtube
Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkIRfaXLN6Y
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X01yx_Ywbe0
Part 3 - http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y8PT3xX3hN0
Part 4 - http://youtube.com/watch?v=xZVT_LxxZ3I
Got feeling that this is just for show only ~~ whether the Malaysia govt will take action to follow up on the feedback is more crucial...
本身就覺得Datuk Shabery辯論得很差，人身攻擊，一點風度都沒有..
安華很淡定，問題和回答都很有力和很直接。
Part 5 & Part 6 in addition of what gnocspider has posted here
yaloh, 那天还很巴闭大声说输了要辞职......
又是一名托大腳博出位的K哩菲..
白白黏黏的咀，很没有仪态的K哩菲新闻部长
=.='' 昨天我的朋友叫我開來看..馬來文...完全不懂在講甚魔~
听懂一点点~
哈哈~
不知道安先生今天会如何？
整場辯論,安華呈現大將之風
內容清楚易明, 而且有根有據
相反shabery就只會嘻笑怒罵
離題, 加上內容亂七八糟, 完成唔識經濟學
shabery讲他是被人民选出来的…… 我好后悔~
shake berry is a victim.......... don't blame on him........... blame on those who put him on the stage! in the sword fighting ring............ one is sword fighter.......... the other one is footballer............ its a boring and meaningless game! it has to be a debate btw two finance ministers.............. one X and one NOW............. or at least between annuar and PM............. u need two good players to perform an interesting game............... or lese its boring....... Even last nite Annuar appeared to be so bland..............not as sharp as he used to be!
but the one that rakyat expect to see is not willing(not having that courage) to take the challenge, isn't it? or maybe there are some other reason :-)
seriously i do hope to see more of such debate, at least it give us some other information despite on what the BN government are telling the rakyat right now...
its a healthy development in msia political arena......... at least the government now knows that they can not bullshit rakyat and rakyat demands a fair platform.............. at least a good starting point lerrrrrrrrrr
我有看~~
年轻人。。。有什么看法？ :D
this one better....
好多人話安華尋晚表現唔好
要知道辯論同演講係兩回事, 唔能夠相提並論
加上咁嘅公開辯論係第一次, 我覺得係一個健康嘅發展
希望下次會越來越多類似嘅朝野辯論
人民公正党实权领袖安华依布拉欣今天中午12时45分左右在其位于吉隆坡泗岩沫（Segambut Dalam）的住家被警方逮捕！
http://www.merdekareview.com/news.php?n=7207
very entertaining....................... kakkakaka
Did you guys notice that Anwar's supporters claps usually comes from way behind the crowd?
while Shabery's supporters are all in front of the stage, in the camera's view?
expected........... we all rakyat learned a lesson long time ago when pak lak said...... harga minyak tidak akan naik tahun ni.................. then bbbllllooppppppppppppppp.............. the next day, it went up sky high................ so, SAY and DO are two totally different things.......... annuar needs to know tat too bcos he is smarter than us rakyat!
who cares???? its not miss universe pageant! hahhaha
在part 1 都看不下去。。那个kardin 得嘴面为何那么“衰“！？ 一幅肚满肠肥的样子！
我在想安华是否真的 “mengambil kesempatan daripada kesempitan rakyat" 去达到他的政治目的？!
他所谓的调低RM 0.50 , 真的为人民着想吗？还是要借取民权达到现任政府？！
让你选择，你会选择什么？
如果给安华上台，他真的是为民服务吗。。？可以 fair racial ? 他可以做到所有马来西亚公民的马来西亚，还是马来人的马来西亚？
人民有二择一的选择，你会选择哪一个？
我选择做个放眼世界， 有世界观的人民。现在的油价高涨真的不是政府的错！是全球性的，无论哪个国家都会遭殃的。
=.=''
这个我也懂，油价问题都有报道
但是放眼世界也是要政府，有世界观的人民也要政府。。。
所以还是要做出选择~
政府都是好像L酱的。。。但是现任的真的是L上加L~
我也同意你的说法，但现任政府不是已在调整和改变了吗？（他好像也在效仿某个国家：油价没办法不涨，但有给津贴回扣帮助减轻人民负担。十个“逼不得已”的做法！）
你知道他们通过邮政局发放给人民的钱，他们是有抽佣的吗？
改变？调整？你看看他们的双重标准，怎样对待自己人和外人。。。自己人涉嫌不用捉，外人涉嫌就被捕
这是什么道理？
百物高涨官叫我们ubah gaya hidup，他们自己却带整家人出国旅行。。。强~
我个人不介意油价起。。。但是起码也要有个像样的公共设施。。。paklah之前承诺的公共设施发展费用才用一点其他的都不翼而飞。。。至今都没有给人民答案~
对了。。 讲到重点了。如果安华是个好的政治家，他不该以油价为他的出发点，是要找出更多现任政府弊案的证据来， 推翻它，带领人民走向民主，公正的国家！
哈哈哈。。。弊案wor....emer...相信你应该有注意马来西亚这几个月的动向吧？
要推翻一个政府谈何容易。。。你看现任政府都在做什么？
还有没有一个政治家是好的。。。包括安华。。。
公正在马来西亚不能用。。。司法完全坏了。。。
样子这事情
天定的，怪不得他。。。
重要的是看完他们在辩论什么
要达到目的
一定是要付出的啦。。。
辩论里面说到的，其实不是调低rm0.50罢了
而是整个国家的经济情况
要是经济继续低迷下去
以后的日子
人民都很难过
是为了自已，还是为人民
这个没人敢打包单
至少
有一个希望，可以改变现在的情况
可以说明津贴怎样帮到人民吗？
习惯就好。。。
要是那么容易拿到证据的话。。。
人民就有好日子过了。。。
白费了中六所读的pengajian am...
课本写的和现实社会的
相差太远了。。。
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